Casey Anthony trial

[James Goforth]

I don't know why the Casey Anthony trial is so famous. But what I'd
like to know is if the Florida taxpayers are footing the bill for all
this, or is CNN and Fox, et. al. having to shovel a ton of money towards
it, since they're making a ton of money off of it?

[Dick Hurtz]

Post by James Goforth
I don't know why the Casey Anthony trial is so famous. But what I'd
like to know is if the Florida taxpayers are footing the bill for all
this, or is CNN and Fox, et. al. having to shovel a ton of money towards
it, since they're making a ton of money off of it?

Nancy (dis)Grace has made a career off stories like this.

I haven't followed the trial that closely, but if Casey walks scot-free with
the absolute lunatic fringe defense she and her lawyers have presented, our
justice system is broken beyond all repair.

[Earl]

Post by Dick Hurtz

Post by James Goforth
I don't know why the Casey Anthony trial is so famous. But what I'd
like to know is if the Florida taxpayers are footing the bill for all
this, or is CNN and Fox, et. al. having to shovel a ton of money
towards it, since they're making a ton of money off of it?

Nancy (dis)Grace has made a career off stories like this.

Are you jealous of her?

Post by Dick Hurtz
I haven't followed the trial that closely, but if Casey walks
scot-free with the absolute lunatic fringe defense she and her lawyers
have presented, our justice system is broken beyond all repair.

[**Bigstick**]

Post by Dick Hurtz
I haven't followed the trial that closely, but if Casey walks scot-free with
the absolute lunatic fringe defense she and her lawyers have presented, our
justice system is broken beyond all repair.

You admit you haven't followed the trial that closely, yet you are willing
to convict her?

You should have stopped at "I haven't followed the trial that closely", and
then shut your pie hole.

You are a typical American, who is influenced by the media, who has also
already convicted her.

I'm not saying she is innocent or guilty.
Like you, I also have not followed the trial "that closely"
But I'm also not ready to burn her at the stake either, as you apparently
are.

How about this, Dick?
NO OPINION, because I don't have all the facts.

Try it some time.



**BIGstick**

Could a being create the fifty billion galaxies, each with two hundred
billion stars, then rejoice in the smell of burning goat flesh?

[**Bigstick**]

One more thing:

Trial by TV, which broadcasts only snippets and sensationalism, is a farce
and basically equivalent to a kangaroo court.

Your average "dick", will come home from work and watch edited portions of
FoxNews / CNN ... and then be swayed by the edited court testimony and the
anchors point of view.

LOL!

Justice ... Christian style!!

Damn the evidence!
Jump to conclusions!
Mob mentality!
Burn 'em all!!!!!!

Sometimes we don't learn from history.
We all have our fucking opinions, no matter how ignorant they may be.

Salem comes to mind.



**BIGstick**

Could a being create the fifty billion galaxies, each with two hundred
billion stars, then rejoice in the smell of burning goat flesh?

[Dick Hurtz]

Post by **Bigstick**

Post by Dick Hurtz
I haven't followed the trial that closely, but if Casey walks scot-free with
the absolute lunatic fringe defense she and her lawyers have presented,
our justice system is broken beyond all repair.

You admit you haven't followed the trial that closely, yet you are willing
to convict her?
You should have stopped at "I haven't followed the trial that closely",
and then shut your pie hole.
You are a typical American, who is influenced by the media, who has also
already convicted her.
I'm not saying she is innocent or guilty.
Like you, I also have not followed the trial "that closely"
But I'm also not ready to burn her at the stake either, as you apparently
are.
How about this, Dick?
NO OPINION, because I don't have all the facts.
Try it some time.

Ah, dearest Bisquick. Overdue for one of your infamous rants. Once again
trying to paint yourself as superior to us mere mortals, yet failing
miserably.

I'd take the time to provide facts from the case and the trial, but a simple
Google search can do that much quicker. And no one has 'all the facts',
because if they did, a trial probably wouldn't be necessary. Suffice it to
say that when you're accused of murder and your defense consists of blaming
a non-existent nanny and accusing your father of incest, your chances of
acquittal are not good.

Feel free to run along now and troll other newsgroups. I'm sure Steven
Tyler appreciates you telling fans of other bands that Aerosmith is superior
to whatever music they listen to.

[**Bigstick**]

Post by **Bigstick**

Post by Dick Hurtz
I haven't followed the trial that closely, but if Casey walks scot-free with
the absolute lunatic fringe defense she and her lawyers have presented,
our justice system is broken beyond all repair.

You admit you haven't followed the trial that closely, yet you are willing
to convict her?
You should have stopped at "I haven't followed the trial that closely",
and then shut your pie hole.
You are a typical American, who is influenced by the media, who has also
already convicted her.
I'm not saying she is innocent or guilty.
Like you, I also have not followed the trial "that closely"
But I'm also not ready to burn her at the stake either, as you apparently
are.
How about this, Dick?
NO OPINION, because I don't have all the facts.
Try it some time.
Ah, dearest Bisquick. Overdue for one of your infamous rants. Once again
trying to paint yourself as superior to us mere mortals, yet failing
miserably.
I'd take the time to provide facts from the case and the trial, but a
simple Google search can do that much quicker.

Ahhh yes, The infamous Google search replaces a jury trial.
Justice ... American style.

Post by **Bigstick**
And no one has 'all the facts',

The jury does.

Post by **Bigstick**
because if they did, a trial probably wouldn't be necessary.

Of course not, just "Google" it.
Of course doing a "Google search" is so much "quicker".
LOL!

Post by **Bigstick**
Suffice it to say that when you're accused of murder and your defense
consists of blaming a non-existent nanny and accusing your father of
incest, your chances of acquittal are not good.

Did you Google that?

Post by **Bigstick**
Feel free to run along now and troll other newsgroups. I'm sure Steven
Tyler appreciates you telling fans of other bands that Aerosmith is
superior to whatever music they listen to.

I never said that.
Then again, you probably did a Google search and somehow came to that
conclusion.

My point is, nobody can intelligently determine anyone's guilt or innocence
unless they serve on that jury.

You determined this girl's guilt based on cable news and Google.
You sir, are an idiot.


**BIGstick**

Could a being create the fifty billion galaxies, each with two hundred
billion stars, then rejoice in the smell of burning goat flesh?

[Dick Hurtz]

Post by **Bigstick**

Post by **Bigstick**

Post by Dick Hurtz
I haven't followed the trial that closely, but if Casey walks scot-free with
the absolute lunatic fringe defense she and her lawyers have presented,
our justice system is broken beyond all repair.

You admit you haven't followed the trial that closely, yet you are
willing to convict her?
You should have stopped at "I haven't followed the trial that closely",
and then shut your pie hole.
You are a typical American, who is influenced by the media, who has also
already convicted her.
I'm not saying she is innocent or guilty.
Like you, I also have not followed the trial "that closely"
But I'm also not ready to burn her at the stake either, as you apparently
are.
How about this, Dick?
NO OPINION, because I don't have all the facts.
Try it some time.
Ah, dearest Bisquick. Overdue for one of your infamous rants. Once again
trying to paint yourself as superior to us mere mortals, yet failing
miserably.
I'd take the time to provide facts from the case and the trial, but a
simple Google search can do that much quicker.

Ahhh yes, The infamous Google search replaces a jury trial.
Justice ... American style.

Not being on the jury, I have no other option for the facts but the media.

Post by **Bigstick**

Post by **Bigstick**
And no one has 'all the facts',

The jury does.

One could hope.

Post by **Bigstick**

Post by **Bigstick**
because if they did, a trial probably wouldn't be necessary.

Of course not, just "Google" it.
Of course doing a "Google search" is so much "quicker".
LOL!

Post by **Bigstick**
Suffice it to say that when you're accused of murder and your defense
consists of blaming a non-existent nanny and accusing your father of
incest, your chances of acquittal are not good.

Did you Google that?

Post by **Bigstick**
Feel free to run along now and troll other newsgroups. I'm sure Steven
Tyler appreciates you telling fans of other bands that Aerosmith is
superior to whatever music they listen to.

I never said that.
Then again, you probably did a Google search and somehow came to that
conclusion.

Deny trolling multiple groups all you like. Feel free to use the "I was
hacked" Weiner defense.

Evidence of your pathetic cries for attention abound.

Post by **Bigstick**
My point is, nobody can intelligently determine anyone's guilt or
innocence unless they serve on that jury.
You determined this girl's guilt based on cable news and Google.
You sir, are an idiot.

And you, sir, ridicule people for the same behavior you exhibit. Any link
you've ever posted is from the same sources you criticize here.

[**Bigstick**]

Post by Dick Hurtz

Post by **Bigstick**
Ahhh yes, The infamous Google search replaces a jury trial.
Justice ... American style.

Not being on the jury, I have no other option for the facts but the media.

Exactly, which is precisely why you should hold your opinion on the case.
Unless you listened to ALL the evidence / arguments, you are ignorant of
said case.

Post by Dick Hurtz

Post by **Bigstick**
And no one has 'all the facts',

The jury does.
One could hope.

Of course.
But you certainly do not have 'all the facts', as you have already admitted.
Yet, for reasons unknown reasoning, you decided on "GUILTY" against a woman
you already admitted you did not follow her case.
LOL! That is insane.

Post by Dick Hurtz
Deny trolling multiple groups all you like. Feel free to use the "I was
hacked" Weiner defense.

Bla Bla Bla Bla ... what the fuck is "trolling"?
I've been "participating" in the same groups for many years.
Whenever I disagree with someone, and call them out on their stupidity,
idiots such as yourself ... play the dreaded 'TROLL' card.

Go fuck yourself.

Post by Dick Hurtz
Evidence of your pathetic cries for attention abound.

And this too.
Because I called you out on your ignorance ... I must be crying out for
attention.
LOL.

Typical FAIL argument.

Again, Go fuck yourself.

Post by Dick Hurtz
And you, sir, ridicule people for the same behavior you exhibit. Any link
you've ever posted is from the same sources you criticize here.

Be careful using the word 'ever'.
You may be proven wrong.

**BIGstick**

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Post by **Bigstick**

Post by Dick Hurtz

Post by **Bigstick**
Ahhh yes, The infamous Google search replaces a jury trial.
Justice ... American style.

Not being on the jury, I have no other option for the facts but the media.

Exactly, which is precisely why you should hold your opinion on the case.
Unless you listened to ALL the evidence / arguments, you are ignorant of
said case.

I see. Therefore I can't comment on the govt., since I'm not privy to
high-level meetings in DC.

You're obviously ignorant of interpersonal skills, yet here I am conversing
with you anyway.

Post by **Bigstick**
Bla Bla Bla Bla ... what the fuck is "trolling"?
I've been "participating" in the same groups for many years.
Whenever I disagree with someone, and call them out on their stupidity,
idiots such as yourself ... play the dreaded 'TROLL' card.
Go fuck yourself.

Ah yes, your past 'participating' included belittling someone's autistic son
in the VH group. Stay classy, Bisquick.

Post by **Bigstick**

Post by Dick Hurtz
Evidence of your pathetic cries for attention abound.

And this too.
Because I called you out on your ignorance ... I must be crying out for
attention.
LOL.
Typical FAIL argument.
Again, Go fuck yourself.

Your presence on Usenet = a rant for attention.

[**Bigstick**]

Post by Dick Hurtz

Post by **Bigstick**
Exactly, which is precisely why you should hold your opinion on the case.
Unless you listened to ALL the evidence / arguments, you are ignorant of
said case.

I see. Therefore I can't comment on the govt., since I'm not privy to
high-level meetings in DC.

Not even in the same ballpark.
Not even close.
You live in a country that votes for its government, and have every right to
criticize or comment on it.

Unless you sit on a jury and listen to every second of testimony, you are in
no position to pass judgment.

This is just a stupid comparison on your part, and if you can't see the
difference ... you're even more of a moron than I thought.

And guess what genius .... the jury found Casey Anthony innocent of all
homicide charges.
So I guess "our justice system is broken beyond all repair" ???

Wrong, it's alive and well.

When it's tried on cable news, and Google .... by people like you ,that is
when it is broken and has become a joke and is total unjustice.



**BIGstick**

Could a being create the fifty billion galaxies, each with two hundred
billion stars, then rejoice in the smell of burning goat flesh?

[Dick Hurtz]

Post by **Bigstick**

Post by Dick Hurtz

Post by **Bigstick**
Exactly, which is precisely why you should hold your opinion on the case.
Unless you listened to ALL the evidence / arguments, you are ignorant of
said case.

I see. Therefore I can't comment on the govt., since I'm not privy to
high-level meetings in DC.

Not even in the same ballpark.
Not even close.
You live in a country that votes for its government, and have every right
to criticize or comment on it.
Unless you sit on a jury and listen to every second of testimony, you are
in no position to pass judgment.
This is just a stupid comparison on your part, and if you can't see the
difference ... you're even more of a moron than I thought.

How about the Blago case then? Found not guilty on all but one charge a
year ago, convicted on all but 3 charges a week ago. Do I get to change my
opinion of his case because a different jury had a different opinion? Or am
I simply not allowed an opinion because I wasn't on either jury? And who
decides who can and who can't have an opinion, you? As a taxpayer in
Illinois, I have a strong opinion of Blago, the job he did as governor and
the crimes he was convicted of.

Post by **Bigstick**
And guess what genius .... the jury found Casey Anthony innocent of all
homicide charges.

Found 'not guilty' of homicide, not 'innocent'. And from what the jurors
are saying today, they wanted to convict her of murder, but felt the
prosecution didn't provide evidence that she comitted the crime. So I
credit the jurors for doing their job properly even though they found her
guilty of lying and probably guilty of the murder. A 'not guilty' while
holding their noses.

Post by **Bigstick**
So I guess "our justice system is broken beyond all repair" ???
Wrong, it's alive and well.
When it's tried on cable news, and Google .... by people like you ,that is
when it is broken and has become a joke and is total unjustice.

Ah, so me and millions of other people are at fault for the system being
broken, just because we formed an opinion based on the media's reporting.
Is that any different from forming an opinion when the media reports
politics or sports?

Feel free to blame me for Casey not being able to find gainful employment,
and resorting to less traditional ways of making a living.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/06/casey-anthony-porn-movie-vivid-entertainment-xxx-movie-lawyer-offer/

In a year, you can also blame me for Casey becoming a crackwhore and being
found dead in a cheap motel.

[**Bigstick**]

Post by Dick Hurtz
How about the Blago case then? Found not guilty on all but one charge a
year ago, convicted on all but 3 charges a week ago. Do I get to change my
opinion of his case because a different jury had a different opinion?

It's not just a "different jury", it's also the Prosecution's case.
In the Blago fiasco, obviously the Prosecution improved their case the
second time around.

The Prosecution must provide evidence, without reasonable doubt to convict.
For YOU to form an intelligent opinion on any case .... YES, you must sit on
the jury, or at least be a court observer for every
minute of testimony.

If you have not witnessed every single minute of testimony of any case, your
opinion is invalid.

Post by Dick Hurtz
Or am I simply not allowed an opinion because I wasn't on either jury?

Exactly.
Your opinion is shit if you have not served on a jury for any case you wish
to opine on.

Post by Dick Hurtz
And who decides who can and who can't have an opinion, you?

In a court of law ... the judge.
In the court of public opinion ... Geraldo Rivera and his microphone.

Post by Dick Hurtz
As a taxpayer in Illinois, I have a strong opinion of Blago, the job he did
as governor and the crimes he was convicted of.

Post by **Bigstick**
And guess what genius .... the jury found Casey Anthony innocent of all
homicide charges.

Found 'not guilty' of homicide, not 'innocent'.

In a court of law, this is the same thing.
She was found "innocent" of the charges and case brought up against her.
It doesn't mean she didn't do it, as the Prosecution's case could have been
weak.
You could say this about any case, therefore anyone who is "not guilty" is
not necessarily "innocent" of committing said crime.

Post by Dick Hurtz
And from what the jurors are saying today, they wanted to convict her of
murder, but felt the prosecution didn't provide evidence that she comitted
the crime. So I credit the jurors for doing their job properly even though
they found her guilty of lying and probably guilty of the murder. A 'not
guilty' while holding their noses.

I don't necessarily disagree with anything you've said here.

Post by Dick Hurtz

Post by **Bigstick**
So I guess "our justice system is broken beyond all repair" ???
Wrong, it's alive and well.
When it's tried on cable news, and Google .... by people like you ,that
is when it is broken and has become a joke and is total unjustice.

Ah, so me and millions of other people are at fault for the system being
broken, just because we formed an opinion based on the media's reporting.
Is that any different from forming an opinion when the media reports
politics or sports?

Someone is facing the death penalty when you opine on "politics" and
"sports".
Give me a break.

Your comparisons are asinine.

Post by Dick Hurtz
In a year, you can also blame me for Casey becoming a crackwhore and being
found dead in a cheap motel.

Also blame?
What did I blame you for?
Just an ignorant opinion ... that's all.
Stop being so dramatic.



**BIGstick**

Could a being create the fifty billion galaxies, each with two hundred
billion stars, then rejoice in the smell of burning goat flesh?

[frag]

The devil smiles at the verdict.

[Earl]

Post by frag
The devil smiles at the verdict.

She's going to have more babies so she can kill them,too.