Tony/Kevin's briefcase as his conscience?

[Tony Stacks]

After rewatching the scence where Kevin/Tony is at the Finnerty reunion
I'm beginning to think that maybe the briefcase represented Tony's
conscience. The "Man" says to him "it looks like it weighs a ton" and
"you have to let go" before he can enter the house. This seems to me
like he's telling Tony that in order to move on to the afterlife (i.e.
enter the house) he has to let go of his guilt. This would seem to be
reinforced by the fact that the "Man" was Tony B. whom Tony S. shot and
killed, albeit in order to spare him from a much more horrible death,
and still agonizes about.

Now, whether the house represented a Judeo Christian version of
heaven/hell I don't know. But I think it was certainly made clear that
it was a place you go to after death. The line "We don't talk like that
here," meaning a place where there is no individual self, and all who
go there have a clean slate and carry no baggage, so to speak.

Thoughts?

~Stacks

[Ford T. FreezerClown]

Post by Tony Stacks
After rewatching the scence where Kevin/Tony is at the Finnerty reunion
I'm beginning to think that maybe the briefcase represented Tony's
conscience.

I thought I hearf the briefcase contains Marcellus Wallace's
soul???....Ooops, sorry, wrong briefcase.

[Justin Sane]

Post by Ford T. FreezerClown

Post by Tony Stacks
After rewatching the scence where Kevin/Tony is at the Finnerty reunion
I'm beginning to think that maybe the briefcase represented Tony's
conscience.

I thought I hearf the briefcase contains Marcellus Wallace's
soul???....Ooops, sorry, wrong briefcase.

Bad Mutherfucker.

[Mark Nobles]

Post by Ford T. FreezerClown

Post by Tony Stacks
After rewatching the scence where Kevin/Tony is at the Finnerty reunion
I'm beginning to think that maybe the briefcase represented Tony's
conscience.

I thought I hearf the briefcase contains Marcellus Wallace's
soul???....Ooops, sorry, wrong briefcase.

Oh yeah, wrong briefcase. When Tony opened the case and looked in, it
didn't light up his face.

[Fatbastrd]

Post by Tony Stacks
After rewatching the scence where Kevin/Tony is at the Finnerty reunion
I'm beginning to think that maybe the briefcase represented Tony's
conscience. The "Man" says to him "it looks like it weighs a ton" and
"you have to let go" before he can enter the house. This seems to me
like he's telling Tony that in order to move on to the afterlife (i.e.
enter the house) he has to let go of his guilt. This would seem to be
reinforced by the fact that the "Man" was Tony B. whom Tony S. shot and
killed, albeit in order to spare him from a much more horrible death,
and still agonizes about.
Now, whether the house represented a Judeo Christian version of
heaven/hell I don't know. But I think it was certainly made clear that
it was a place you go to after death. The line "We don't talk like that
here," meaning a place where there is no individual self, and all who
go there have a clean slate and carry no baggage, so to speak.
Thoughts?
~Stacks

Right here and now, by the <Cartman>AUTHORITAH</Cartman> granted to me
by....well.....ME, I hereby declare an official ATS moratorium on any
and all Finnerty dream-related psychoanalysis.

For those that do, a shine box awaits.

[Tony Stacks]

<Vito>Ooo...this fuckin' guy...</Vito>

[Joey Potatoes]

the briefcase means Chase was doing too much coke when he wrote it

Post by Tony Stacks
<Vito>Ooo...this fuckin' guy...</Vito>

[Fatbastrd]

Post by Joey Potatoes
the briefcase means Chase was doing too much coke when he wrote it

Post by Tony Stacks
<Vito>Ooo...this fuckin' guy...</Vito>

Humorous uses are acceptable.

[jrob]

Post by Fatbastrd
Humorous uses are acceptable.

I don't think anybody has mentioned that in death, as life comes full
circle, the briefcase when opened actually turns into................





A SHINE BOX!!

[Fatbastrd]

Post by jrob

Post by Fatbastrd
Humorous uses are acceptable.

I don't think anybody has mentioned that in death, as life comes full
circle, the briefcase when opened actually turns into................
A SHINE BOX!!

I don't care WHO ya are, that's funny right thar.

[Sparky Spartacus]

Post by Joey Potatoes
the briefcase means Chase was doing too much coke when he wrote it

No such thing!

J DeLorean

[Vegetable Lasagne]

Post by Fatbastrd

Post by Tony Stacks
After rewatching the scence where Kevin/Tony is at the Finnerty reunion
I'm beginning to think that maybe the briefcase represented Tony's
conscience. The "Man" says to him "it looks like it weighs a ton" and
"you have to let go" before he can enter the house. This seems to me
like he's telling Tony that in order to move on to the afterlife (i.e.
enter the house) he has to let go of his guilt. This would seem to be
reinforced by the fact that the "Man" was Tony B. whom Tony S. shot and
killed, albeit in order to spare him from a much more horrible death,
and still agonizes about.
Now, whether the house represented a Judeo Christian version of
heaven/hell I don't know. But I think it was certainly made clear that
it was a place you go to after death. The line "We don't talk like that
here," meaning a place where there is no individual self, and all who
go there have a clean slate and carry no baggage, so to speak.
Thoughts?
~Stacks

Right here and now, by the <Cartman>AUTHORITAH</Cartman> granted to me
by....well.....ME, I hereby declare an official ATS moratorium on any
and all Finnerty dream-related psychoanalysis.
For those that do, a shine box awaits.

I can't give you my shine box. My whole life's in there.

[Fatbastrd]

Post by Vegetable Lasagne

Post by Fatbastrd

Post by Tony Stacks
After rewatching the scence where Kevin/Tony is at the Finnerty reunion
I'm beginning to think that maybe the briefcase represented Tony's
conscience. The "Man" says to him "it looks like it weighs a ton" and
"you have to let go" before he can enter the house. This seems to me
like he's telling Tony that in order to move on to the afterlife (i.e.
enter the house) he has to let go of his guilt. This would seem to be
reinforced by the fact that the "Man" was Tony B. whom Tony S. shot and
killed, albeit in order to spare him from a much more horrible death,
and still agonizes about.
Now, whether the house represented a Judeo Christian version of
heaven/hell I don't know. But I think it was certainly made clear that
it was a place you go to after death. The line "We don't talk like that
here," meaning a place where there is no individual self, and all who
go there have a clean slate and carry no baggage, so to speak.
Thoughts?
~Stacks

Right here and now, by the <Cartman>AUTHORITAH</Cartman> granted to me
by....well.....ME, I hereby declare an official ATS moratorium on any
and all Finnerty dream-related psychoanalysis.
For those that do, a shine box awaits.

I can't give you my shine box. My whole life's in there.

Now if Kevin Finnerty would have told the Maitre D'Afterlife to go get
is fuckin' shine box, THAT woulda been some kinda funny.

[Flagstaff Frank]

Post by Vegetable Lasagne
I can't give you my shine box. My whole life's in there.

Now if Kevin Finnerty would have told the Maitre D'Afterlife to go get is
fuckin' shine box, THAT woulda been some kinda funny.

[Flagstaff Frank]

Post by Vegetable Lasagne
I can't give you my shine box. My whole life's in there.

Now if Kevin Finnerty would have told the Maitre D'Afterlife to go get is
fuckin' shine box, THAT woulda been some kinda funny.

I was kind of expecting the bartender to say to Finnerty, "Sorry, your
money's no good here" as in The Shining

[Fatbastrd]

Post by Flagstaff Frank

Post by Vegetable Lasagne
I can't give you my shine box. My whole life's in there.

Now if Kevin Finnerty would have told the Maitre D'Afterlife to go get is
fuckin' shine box, THAT woulda been some kinda funny.

I was kind of expecting the bartender to say to Finnerty, "Sorry, your
money's no good here" as in The Shining

A HA! THAT'S what was missing. I kept thinking that what was missing was
to have a few suits (since Finnerty was a corporate sort) keep popping
into his dream and telling him that he's not getting it done. KINDA LIKE
DA SHININ'.

Just as an aside, I think the iconic picture for the poster for that
movie, instead of Jack's face poking through the freshly axed hole in
the door, should be a box...

...and ya know what KIND of box????

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

[rosie]

Post by Tony Stacks
After rewatching the scence where Kevin/Tony is at the Finnerty reunion
I'm beginning to think that maybe the briefcase represented Tony's
conscience. The "Man" says to him "it looks like it weighs a ton" and
"you have to let go" before he can enter the house. This seems to me
like he's telling Tony that in order to move on to the afterlife (i.e.
enter the house) he has to let go of his guilt. This would seem to be
reinforced by the fact that the "Man" was Tony B. whom Tony S. shot and
killed, albeit in order to spare him from a much more horrible death,
and still agonizes about.
Now, whether the house represented a Judeo Christian version of
heaven/hell I don't know. But I think it was certainly made clear that
it was a place you go to after death. The line "We don't talk like that
here," meaning a place where there is no individual self, and all who
go there have a clean slate and carry no baggage, so to speak.
Thoughts?
~Stacks

Here is how I see it. Tony said " My life is in there " the briefcase.
Tony B told Tony S , he had to give him the briefcase ( his life )
before he could go to the Family Reunion.

Tony made the choice to hang on to the briefcas( his life) so he could
not be reunited with all the dead members of the family.

At this point Tony begins to come alive again.
Rosie

[Fatbastrd]

Post by rosie

Post by Tony Stacks
After rewatching the scence where Kevin/Tony is at the Finnerty reunion
I'm beginning to think that maybe the briefcase represented Tony's
conscience. The "Man" says to him "it looks like it weighs a ton" and
"you have to let go" before he can enter the house. This seems to me
like he's telling Tony that in order to move on to the afterlife (i.e.
enter the house) he has to let go of his guilt. This would seem to be
reinforced by the fact that the "Man" was Tony B. whom Tony S. shot and
killed, albeit in order to spare him from a much more horrible death,
and still agonizes about.
Now, whether the house represented a Judeo Christian version of
heaven/hell I don't know. But I think it was certainly made clear that
it was a place you go to after death. The line "We don't talk like that
here," meaning a place where there is no individual self, and all who
go there have a clean slate and carry no baggage, so to speak.
Thoughts?
~Stacks

Here is how I see it. Tony said " My life is in there " the briefcase.
Tony B told Tony S , he had to give him the briefcase ( his life )
before he could go to the Family Reunion.
Tony made the choice to hang on to the briefcas( his life) so he could
not be reunited with all the dead members of the family.
At this point Tony begins to come alive again.
Rosie

Alright, that's it.

NOW GO HOME AND GET YOUR FUCKIN' SHINE BOX!!!

[Otto Preminger's Goldfish]

Post by Fatbastrd

Post by rosie

Post by Tony Stacks
After rewatching the scence where Kevin/Tony is at the Finnerty reunion
I'm beginning to think that maybe the briefcase represented Tony's
conscience. The "Man" says to him "it looks like it weighs a ton" and
"you have to let go" before he can enter the house. This seems to me
like he's telling Tony that in order to move on to the afterlife (i.e.
enter the house) he has to let go of his guilt. This would seem to be
reinforced by the fact that the "Man" was Tony B. whom Tony S. shot and
killed, albeit in order to spare him from a much more horrible death,
and still agonizes about.
Now, whether the house represented a Judeo Christian version of
heaven/hell I don't know. But I think it was certainly made clear that
it was a place you go to after death. The line "We don't talk like that
here," meaning a place where there is no individual self, and all who
go there have a clean slate and carry no baggage, so to speak.
Thoughts?
~Stacks

Here is how I see it. Tony said " My life is in there " the briefcase.
Tony B told Tony S , he had to give him the briefcase ( his life )
before he could go to the Family Reunion.
Tony made the choice to hang on to the briefcas( his life) so he could
not be reunited with all the dead members of the family.
At this point Tony begins to come alive again.
Rosie

Alright, that's it.
NOW GO HOME AND GET YOUR FUCKIN' SHINE BOX!!!

Is this your pen?

[Zeb Quinn]

Post by Tony Stacks
After rewatching the scence where Kevin/Tony is at the Finnerty reunion
I'm beginning to think that maybe the briefcase represented Tony's
conscience. The "Man" says to him "it looks like it weighs a ton" and
"you have to let go" before he can enter the house. This seems to me
like he's telling Tony that in order to move on to the afterlife (i.e.
enter the house) he has to let go of his guilt. This would seem to be
reinforced by the fact that the "Man" was Tony B. whom Tony S. shot and
killed, albeit in order to spare him from a much more horrible death,
and still agonizes about.
Now, whether the house represented a Judeo Christian version of
heaven/hell I don't know. But I think it was certainly made clear that
it was a place you go to after death. The line "We don't talk like that
here," meaning a place where there is no individual self, and all who
go there have a clean slate and carry no baggage, so to speak.
Thoughts?

It's not guilt. It's him. The sum total of his life. And his soul.
Everything he is. Once he surrenders it he surrenders everything he
is and everything he will be, and he'll be judged accordingly.
There'll be no redemption, at least no chance for it later.

Tony's question was, has Kevin Finerty arrived? The answer was, "we
don't talk like that here." There's enough built-in ambiguities where
we don't really know what that means. Could be, we don't identify
individuals by name here. Or, we don't talk about infinity here. Or
something else.

[a***@earthlink.net]

Post by Zeb Quinn
Tony's question was, has Kevin Finerty arrived? The answer was, "we
don't talk like that here." There's enough built-in ambiguities where
we don't really know what that means. Could be, we don't identify
individuals by name here. Or, we don't talk about infinity here. Or
something else.

Or we don't speak with non-goomba accents here.

[Daniel Joseph Min]

Post by Tony Stacks
After rewatching the scence where Kevin/Tony is at the Finnerty reunion
I'm beginning to think that maybe the briefcase represented Tony's
conscience. The "Man" says to him "it looks like it weighs a ton" and
"you have to let go" before he can enter the house. This seems to me
like he's telling Tony that in order to move on to the afterlife (i.e.
enter the house) he has to let go of his guilt. This would seem to be
reinforced by the fact that the "Man" was Tony B. whom Tony S. shot and
killed, albeit in order to spare him from a much more horrible death,
and still agonizes about.
Now, whether the house represented a Judeo Christian version of
heaven/hell I don't know. But I think it was certainly made clear that
it was a place you go to after death. The line "We don't talk like that
here," meaning a place where there is no individual self, and all who
go there have a clean slate and carry no baggage, so to speak.

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Good, thought-provoking points. Notably, Phil Leotardo can
"never forget" Billy getting whacked by Tony Blundetto, and
T's rogue intervention which precluded a more painful demise,
effectively robbing Phil & Co. of their perceived "revenge";
thus setting the stage for Tony Soprano to be the target of
their obsession for revenge--which, of course, will backfire. :-D

Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min

[Burt Bondie]

I am glad T is awake now as I am past being tired of the Finnity
charactor. Chase made his point here with all the imagery and what not.
I don't particular like dream sequences in shows like this because it's
tired. Ok, his doctor is one of the monks. The briefcase which he is
sure is not his (or not so sure) represents his "bagage" or his past.
His identity is in question and when you see the "real" Finnity his pic
is different than that of Tony's.

Also, has anyone notice the name Finnity? Finn is Meadows
boyfriend..see the connection. It's not just a play on the word
infinity. Tony is subconciously thinking of the ideal person he could
have been and his most obvious influence of that is the possible future
son in law that he likes. His connection to Meadow is stronger than
with AJ.

By the way, I wouldn't mind seeing AJ get whacked. He is this shows
most useless charactor. He makes one thankful they don't have a kid
like that.

[Fatbastrd]

Post by Burt Bondie
I am glad T is awake now as I am past being tired of the Finnity
charactor. Chase made his point here with all the imagery and what not.
I don't particular like dream sequences in shows like this because it's
tired. Ok, his doctor is one of the monks. The briefcase which he is
sure is not his (or not so sure) represents his "bagage" or his past.
His identity is in question and when you see the "real" Finnity his pic
is different than that of Tony's.
Also, has anyone notice the name Finnity? Finn is Meadows
boyfriend..see the connection. It's not just a play on the word
infinity. Tony is subconciously thinking of the ideal person he could
have been and his most obvious influence of that is the possible future
son in law that he likes. His connection to Meadow is stronger than
with AJ.
By the way, I wouldn't mind seeing AJ get whacked. He is this shows
most useless charactor. He makes one thankful they don't have a kid
like that.

He represents what ALL teenagers are, a fawkin' pain in the ass. I know,
I gots three of 'em!

Ya wanna know why I don't pull my hair out or why it hasn't turned grey?

'CAUSE I'M FAWKIN' BALD, THAT'S WHY!

[CliffB]

Yeah, he keeps his talking fish in it.