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ESPN - and their love for the NFL players
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**Bigstick**
2011-07-22 02:56:51 UTC
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I'm a big NFL football fan.
I think this is the greatest sport of all time.

When I watch ESPN, I have to laugh at the ass kissing the ESPN crew gives to
the NFLPA and it's players.

But it makes sense from a business point of view.
ESPN is not looking to interview owners ... they want access to the PLAYERS.
So, it makes sense that they have a bias in favor of the players ... they
certainly do not want to alienate any of them, for fear of lack of access.

But from a pure non-bias point of view with this CBA ... do not look to
ESPN.
They are a bunch of ass kissers, looking out for their almighty dollar.

Players are good.
Owners are bad.
Says ESPN.

Welcome to the world bias news network.
Just like
CNN
MSNBC
and
FoxNews

Everyone has a fucking agenda.
So think for yourself.



**BIGstick**

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.
Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked
Him to forgive me.
Dick Hurtz
2011-07-26 03:43:43 UTC
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Post by **Bigstick**
I'm a big NFL football fan.
I think this is the greatest sport of all time.
When I watch ESPN, I have to laugh at the ass kissing the ESPN crew gives
to the NFLPA and it's players.
But it makes sense from a business point of view.
ESPN is not looking to interview owners ... they want access to the PLAYERS.
So, it makes sense that they have a bias in favor of the players ... they
certainly do not want to alienate any of them, for fear of lack of access.
But from a pure non-bias point of view with this CBA ... do not look to
ESPN.
They are a bunch of ass kissers, looking out for their almighty dollar.
Players are good.
Owners are bad.
Says ESPN.
Welcome to the world bias news network.
Just like
CNN
MSNBC
and
FoxNews
Everyone has a fucking agenda.
So think for yourself.
Guess I hadn't noticed ESPN being biased in favor of the players. However,
I did notice that the media in general seemed to be reporting that we were
on the verge of a deal for the last 4-6 weeks, with nothing concrete until
now. Makes you wonder if the lawyers stretched it out to keep their
billable hours running. And that's what this was all about - two sides
letting lawyers and judges try to make decisions about a sport.

I do like following ESPN reporters like Chris Mortensen, Adam Schefter and
John Clayton, along with Peter King and Don Banks at SI. Some good football
scoop there, even in the offseason.

What I don't understand is how such a booming business estimated to bring in
nearly $10 billion a year almost came to a grinding halt. It's not like
this is the auto industry where the automakers and the unions need to barter
over a deal when the industry as a whole is struggling. But when the
commissioner is a puppet of the owners rather than an independent 3rd party,
that's bound to happen. David Stern, please take note.
**Bigstick**
2011-07-29 03:29:44 UTC
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What I don't understand is how such a booming business estimated to bring in
nearly $10 billion a year almost came to a grinding halt.
Serious?
You really think it 'almost' came to a grinding halt?

Really?
You believe that?

I have a bridge I'd like to sell to you too.

Dicky boy, I like you ... but you are one fucking naïve stupid mother
fucker.

Now go tell that to your Lord Jesus and get back to me ... tell me what he
says.



**BIGstick**

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.
Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked
Him to forgive me.
Dick Hurtz
2011-07-29 03:37:25 UTC
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Post by Dick Hurtz
What I don't understand is how such a booming business estimated to bring in
nearly $10 billion a year almost came to a grinding halt.
Serious?
You really think it 'almost' came to a grinding halt?
Really?
You believe that?
I have a bridge I'd like to sell to you too.
Dicky boy, I like you ... but you are one fucking naïve stupid mother
fucker.
Now go tell that to your Lord Jesus and get back to me ... tell me what he
says.
Jesus says that even though you're a big bag of douche, he still loves you.

Enjoy being a sheep for the NFL, in bed with the media you claim to be so
far above.
**Bigstick**
2011-07-29 22:03:31 UTC
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Post by Dick Hurtz
Jesus says that even though you're a big bag of douche, he still loves you.
So ... you talked to the son of god, eh?
Could you elaborate on the mode of communication?
Was it through your simpleton mind? You know ... like during a bed time
prayer? Or a Bible study? Or maybe during a game of Ouija?

Or maybe he appeared to you on a piece of burnt toast, and then expressed
his thoughts as you applied the jelly?
Not the K-Y, but the fruit kind.
Post by Dick Hurtz
Enjoy being a sheep for the NFL, in bed with the media you claim to be so
far above.
My point was, and you missed it as usual, that there was way too much
fucking money on both sides ... for this to ever seriously escalate to a
"grinding halt" as you put it.
You are very naïve, and quite ignorant, if you think that that was ever a
possibility.


**BIGstick**

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.
Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked
Him to forgive me.
Dick Hurtz
2011-07-30 03:27:46 UTC
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My point was, and you missed it as usual, that there was way too much
fucking money on both sides ... for this to ever seriously escalate to a
"grinding halt" as you put it.
You are very naïve, and quite ignorant, if you think that that was ever a
possibility.
For either side to leave $10 billion on the table would be completely
asinine. That said, you have paranoid groups of owners and players on both
sides of the table thinking the other side is out to screw them. And when
owners sign a TV deal anticipating a lockout and then refuse to share the
money with the players, I can see why the players don't trust them. Not
that I side with the players, but when there are no guaranteed contracts and
the average career is less than 4 years, might as well make all you can.

The NBA brings in less than half the revenue that the NFL does, and their
upcoming season has been all but cancelled. Mainly due to paper 'losses'
that are basically accounting tricks/tax loopholes. If 23 of 30 teams are
really losing millions every year, I question how the team owners ever had
the brains to become millionaires in the first place. But I'd bet on the
owners winning this battle because the players can't afford to miss that
many paychecks.
**Bigstick**
2011-07-31 00:05:56 UTC
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My point was, and you missed it as usual, that there was way too much
fucking money on both sides ... for this to ever seriously escalate to a
"grinding halt" as you put it.
You are very naïve, and quite ignorant, if you think that that was ever a
possibility.
For either side to leave $10 billion on the table would be completely
asinine.
Yeah, no kidding.
That was my point.
Post by Dick Hurtz
That said, you have paranoid groups of owners and players on both sides of
the table thinking the other side is out to screw them.
Well no duh! Nothing like stating the fucking obvious.
It's called LIFE as we know it.
This doesn't just apply to the NFL.
It applies to everyone ... from a guy getting a repair estimate on his car
to the guys in Washington trying to
hash out just how much more they're going to put this nation in debt.
Post by Dick Hurtz
And when owners sign a TV deal anticipating a lockout and then refuse to
share the money with the players, I can see why the players don't trust
them.
Do the players run the business? No.
The owners do.

Do the players work all year round? No.
The owners and coaches do.

Do the players take any risk when it comes to running the business? No.
The owners do.

Do the players lose or make money based on the bottom line and how the
business is run? No.
The owners do.

The players have a sweet deal.
Just sign that contract, show up, do your one job, get paid and then go
home.

The owners have the responsibility of their entire day to day business.
And should be rewarded accordingly.

The players are the employees.
If they want greater reward, then they need to take a bigger financial risk.

This is the real world, time to grow up.
Post by Dick Hurtz
Not that I side with the players, but when there are no guaranteed
contracts
LOL!
Guaranteed contracts?
Why should anyone in the NFL, or any business for that matter, be given a
fucking GUARANTEED CONTRACT?
Where is the incentive to improve ... if your contract is guaranteed?
Guaranteed contract = easy street / laziness / fuck you pay me my guaranteed
money!

This is why MLB sucks!

Guaranteed contract, my ass!


**BIGstick**

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.
Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked
Him to forgive me.

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